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The Tri-County Regional Chamber of Commerce convened a Zoom call on Tuesday to delve into the four ballot questions that voters face this year, and Observer participated along with “technical expert,” Rep. Shawn Dooley.
Below is a summary of the presentation.
Question 4: Changes in who is authorized to receive a driver's license
Question 4 is a veto referendum on House Bill 4805 (H 4805). H 4805 would repeal the provision of state law that says, "No license of any type may be issued to any person who does not have lawful presence in the United States."
The proposed law would prohibit registrars from inquiring about an applicant’s citizenship or immigration status when applying for driver's licenses and motor vehicle registrations. It would also authorize registrars to accept certain documents to verify the identity and date of birth of an applicant. H 4805 would require one of the documents to be either a valid unexpired foreign passport or a valid unexpired Consular Identification document. The bill would require the second document to be either a valid unexpired driver’s license from any U.S. state or territory, an original or certified copy of a birth certificate, a valid unexpired foreign national identification card, a valid unexpired foreign driver’s license, or a marriage certificate or divorce decree issued by any state or territory of the United States. Any information or communication provided by an applicant to the registrar of motor vehicles, including not providing proof of lawful presence, would not be considered public record nor be disclosed by the registrar, except as required by federal law. The law was designed to take effect on July 1, 2023. (Ballotpedia)
Who is Maureen Maloney?
Maureen Maloney’s son was killed by an illegal in Milford in 2011. Since her son’s death, Maureen has been relentlessly fighting the policies which support and encourages illegal immigration.
After the state of MA passed this law (The Work and Family Mobility Act) allowing undocumented immigrants to get a driver's license despite a veto from Gov. Charlie Baker, Maureen Maloney led the committee Fair and Secure Massachusetts and mobilized a grass roots movement to get a referendum on the ballot and put this important question to voters. So, this is how voters get to decide on November 8!
The original bill was not popular but the legislature moved it into law as quickly as possible. Since then, many local town political groups, including RTCs, have contributted to getting the necessary signatures to add this to the November ballot, Franklin included. Most citizens do not want this! So, getting the signatures was quite easy!
Why vote yes:
Who supports question 4:
Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy
Officials
Unions
Organizations
The committees in support of this ballot measure raised a total of more than $2,260,724.80
Why vote no:
Who opposes question 4:
Officials
Candidates
Former Officials
The committees in opposition of this ballot measure raised a total of $185,106.72
Questions:
Q: What is the logic behind giving undocumented residents a license? How did it all start:
A: In part it was just a ‘perfect storm’ of interest groups and political forces coming together at once, some of which is described here. Some have attributed political motives within the Beacon Hill leadership to the sudden support for and passage of this measure.
Q: The ads claim that it will make roads safter – are there validated studies proving this? 18 other states have implemented this. Is there any hard data to show that the roads are safer because this type of measure?
A: The ads also claim that law enforcement wants this, which is only partly true. Many rank-and-file law enforcement people do not support this. Neither do many smaller police departments, the big support has come from bigger cities in the state whose administrations are closely aligned to Beacon Hill priorities. As far as safety, there is some evidence that giving licenses to illegals reduces hit-and-run accidents – the logic being that there is less fear of arrest and deportation now that the “license” essentially puts a wall between them and ICE. However, a pretty thorough summary of data from across the country where this has been tried in an article
in liberal-leaning Commonwealth, actually showed sharp increases in accidents, again perhaps because the worst potential consequence – deportation – is effectively off the table when illegals have state licenses.
Q: The money donated in support increased by 1,000,000 in the last two weeks. Why such a big push for this? There have also been hints that this will lead to election influence. Can you please explain?
A: Aside from pure advocacy groups, the most notable donor is the Service Employee International Union (SEIU) which may see itself benefiting from representing people that would benefit from “yes.”
Q: What is the main reason Charlie Baker vetoes the law? What are his main objections?
A: Can’t speak for the Governor but he was particularly concerned that the RMV did not have the skills or capacity to adequately review documents to determine if they are legitimate. More on his ballot question views can be found here.
Q: Are you aware of Comcast suppressing links from Fair and secure?
A: Yes, Comcast appeared to be, in effect, censoring the campaign by suppressing communications that mentioned the campaign’s email, though after weeks of complaints, that seems to have stopped.
Q: Undocumented aliens have not entered our country legally, why should they have any right to anything, not just driver’s licenses?
A: Most Americans 10 or 20 years ago would have said they should not have a right to those things. News media and advocates have often confused voters by referring to illegal aliens as “undocumented migrants,” eliminating the obvious implication that they entered the country in violation of US law and implying some benign reason for their lack of documentation. Similarly, illegal aliens have been confused with asylum seekers. The asylum process exists for a reason – to make reasonable exceptions to our immigration laws where there is a compelling reason, such as a high risk of bodily harm if the individuals stay in their home country. This has spawned a whole subcategory of lawyering and has become a claim that many immigrants make because it makes it more difficult to deport these individuals.